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Poster: reviewr Date: Oct 3, 2011 7:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Tiger Jam?

I don't know why, but I'm really bad at recognizing the thematic jams.

Is there a Tiger Jam at the end of the 12/2/73 Playin' In The Band? I know a Mind Left Body jam follows.

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Poster: turnphilup Date: Oct 4, 2011 7:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tiger Jam?

http://www.archive.org/post/280194/the-deads-early-thematic-jams

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Oct 4, 2011 1:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tiger Jam?

Actually, the Tiger jam's not a thematic jam, just a technique...so it's not on that list!
That Playing does have one around 15 minutes in, somewhat muted, but fall '72 is when they do a lot of fierce versions. (In fall '73 they liked to dive into straight feedback without such long "tiger" buildups.)
It's not just the band doing a feedback meltdown, but specifically the way Jerry does it - he'll start with speeding-up muted runs which gradually turn into screeching wah roars while the rest of the band plays feedback or discordant chords.

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Oct 4, 2011 5:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tiger Jam?

but fall '72 is when they do a lot of fierce versions

How do you compare Europe shows to the fall? Just being nosey.

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Oct 4, 2011 5:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tiger Jam?

I think this would qualify as a tiger jam-> tiger roar Diamondhead,the Other One from a fall 72' show,at about 21 minutes it starts to unfold with Weir and Keith playing prominent roles.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1972-09-28.sbd.miller.94268.sbeok.flac16

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Oct 4, 2011 8:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tiger Jam?

"How do you compare Europe shows to the fall?"

Well, to be brief, just in terms of jams, I think they got a lot more aggressive in the fall - they lose the upbeat rollicking Pigpen jams & focus on more mind-melting stuff, so there's kind of a dark, heavy feel to the late '72 jams - whereas the Europe '72 jams have maybe a sweeter, friendlier tone.
There's the flip-side too: there are some nights in fall '72 they don't get any intensity going & just kind of lazily meander in the jam for a while. Whereas almost every Europe '72 show is "on."
Then I guess you could say there's some increasing jazziness post-Europe too, since you get a lot of those Phil/Bill interludes & more bass solos.

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Oct 4, 2011 9:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tiger Jam?

Thanks. I think I see that. They seemed to get less 'bouncy' or 'boingy' to me as the 70s went on. When PP left, I think it just accelerated the process.

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Oct 3, 2011 8:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tiger Jam?

The Tiger jam is on TBS right now....there beating the Yankees!

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Poster: adedhed68 Date: Oct 3, 2011 9:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tiger Jam?

don't get me started. At least they made it in to the postseason.

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Poster: adedhed68 Date: Oct 3, 2011 9:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tiger Jam?

they are playing like a wasteful ton of shit though. I've been a die hard Yankee fan since 1973 and I have never had so much contempt and hatred for A-Hole. What a waste of space. I can't stand him.

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Oct 4, 2011 9:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tiger Jam?

the man's getting old. that's all there is to it. he quickly went from being a superstar to being a .275 hitter with about 30 homers a year. he also never steals anymore. used to be good for at least 20 a year. and next year he's gonna rake in another 29 million!

he's signed through 6 more full seasons with the yanks. it will be very interesting to see what happens with both him and jeter over the next few years. i can't possibly see arod playing until 42, which is when his contract end.

yanks have some big problems ahead of them the next few years but right now they have to figure out how to stop miguel cabrera and that monster detroit lineup.

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Oct 3, 2011 9:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tiger Jam?

I not sure if the tiger jam qualifies as a thematic jam,I think it is more a style of playing inside a jam,but a more scholarly type will have to speak up for more certainty.At about 13 minutes into that PITB a relaxed tiger jam starts to kick in,they mess around with it until about 16:00,it 's not quite as edgy or discordant on this version of PITB.

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Oct 4, 2011 12:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tiger Jam?

What jerlouvis said.

And somewhere I've read where that the culmination of all this craziness was called the 'tiger roar'. And usually after this came something stunningly gorgeous.